The .300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) is the most popular and widely distributed of the modern crop of short magnum cartridges in terms of both factory loaded ammunition and rifles available. Mar 5, 2017 147 6. I have a 300 WM and 300 WSM, most times the WSM gets the nod because I don't want to carry a 9+ lb rifle on a 3000 ft ascent. Winchester certainly marketed it properly—though it was obviously in direct competition with both their .308 Winchester and the .300 Winchester Magnum—and it seemed like overnight everyone was carrying a three-hundred-short-mag. Joined: Sep 2003. Minuteman. Gunner66. My main animals will be kudu zebra eland springbuck gemsbok and so on. and the performance drops off fast. rifles, of the same model and shot 100 groups with each rifle - that the WSM average would be a tad better. He shot his elk, broadside at between 180 and 240 yards, 5 times. The only advantage to a short magnum is that the powder is in a bigger jug, which allows them to use a short action on the rifle. Jan 15, 2016 #1 Need to pick a big caliber rifle and I have come down to the following options : Rifle 1. Without the extra barrel the gain is … The .260 is going to be much more pleasant to shoot than the magnum calibers. The photo below does a great job of showing the differences in external dimensions between the 300 Winchester Magnum and the 300 Winchester Short Magnum. Minuteman. But this was good because I have found that the case capacity of the … C. CA48 Private. 1 of 3 Go to page. 7mm & 300 . L. Loki Well-Known Member. Go. But the 300 WSM is also a great choice. Bolt Action Rifles 1; 2; Next. For elk, .30 caliber is my preference and my go to is the .300 Win Mag. Notably, the .300 Win Mag cartridge fires a projectile that on average can best the .308 Winchester cartridge by 50% on overall distance while maintaining lethality. Like others already noted, you have plenty of gun to 1000+ yards. Personally, we think that whether you choose the 300 Win Mag or 300 Ultra Mag, you’ll gain the same level of shooting experience. Both cases were new unfired. Jun 15, 2018 #32 Bertram now makes saum and WSM brass. in bullets you start to loose case capacity compared to the Win Mag. More. I took rough measurements of both the 300 Win Mag and the 30 Nosler with the very popular 215 Berger hybrid. 30-06 vs 300 WSM vs 300 Win Mag look at these numbers. I did some bench comparisons of the two. Thread starter manscout; Start date Mar 23, 2017; Forums. 300 Win Mag vs 308 . Jan 13, 2018 #1 Does the .300wsm have any major benefits over the .300wm? Ken Kendall June 21, 2019 at 1:24 pm. mag. Head to Head: .300 Win. I don’t know who else makes wsm brass besides Winchester, but there is an unnecessary markup on any wsm brass, whether it be 300, 7, or 270. Minuteman. May 28, 2020 #1 Hi Crew: This is my first post in this forum, though I have been reading Sniper's Hide posts for years … If you are looking for the perfect suppressor for your firearm, here are the top four units to consider. 1 of 2 Go to page. $2+ for a piece of Winchester brass? Rifle. Good luck! 300 WSM vs. .300 WIN MAG..... Thread starter Gunner66; Start date Jan 15, 2016; 1; 2; 3; Next. 300 Blackout VS 308 Winchester; 300 Win Mag VS 308 Win Mag; 3.9/5 (10 Reviews) Will Ellis. Here are some measurements and comments about the 300 Win vs the 30 Nos. First, the .300 Win Mag is a lot longer. … Next Last. Q. Quigley76 Private. But I know what you … A 300 win mag is a massive firearm that can be super loud when you take a shot with it. Truly appreciate you watching the videos!Milk jugs with these two power houses!! Go. But if you are going 1,000 plus consistently, I would look into a 7 wsm or 7 saum. Re: .270 WSM or .300 WSM or .300 Win Mag [Re: akarrow] #9006492 07/08/14: Joined: Sep 2003. For the 300 win the only new case I had was a Lapua head stamp. I love how hard the 300 WM hits elk at 300+ yards, but the WSM is no slouch. Weight (lbs) Capacity. ELR - Beyond 1000 Yards M. manscout Sergeant of the Hide. the 300 wsm is at full throttle while the 300 win mag is producing the goods a lot easier.time will tell for the 300wsm. Here at Gun News Daily, we support guns for self defense and and competitive shooting. .300 Win Mag vs. .300 WSM. They are both excellent cartridges. It has slightly less powder capacity than the standard length .300 Winchester Magnum. Old school here. Swift Chief Bagel Technician . Length. The specs on a standard rem 700 SA mag box is around 2.865”. I would bet that if you took 100 .300 WSM rifles and 100 .300 Win. Campfire 'Bwana. Thread starter tac29136; Start date Jan 13, 2018; tac29136 Well-Known Member. Me shooting 300 Win Mag at a big buck Slayer Nation Outdoors Minuteman. Thread starter mattri; Start date Nov 1, 2013; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . The 300 Win Mag kicks too much for me to enjoy and while a senior I am 6', 175 # and have large hands. The reason I say the WSM over the .300 Win Mag is a shorter bolt throw. 300 WSM - .74" Barrel contour - 1:11" Twist rate - 22 3/4" barrel length Rifle 2. The fact is that each cartridge has different points with lots of advantages. Last year, I harvested a bull elk at 931 yards. When comparing a standard .300 WSM vs .300 Win Mag, it was proved that the .300 win magnum had a higher recoil but could deliver bullets at a very high speed. For competition shooting, we recommend 6.5 Creedmoor. Savage_99. Big deal. One other stipulation is if you prefer to hunt with an AR-frame weapon. Campfire 'Bwana. Savage_99. Silencerco Sparrow 22 Long Rifle Suppressor. Either way, just keep an eye on the mag box length for the rifle you choose. Jan 27, 2020 … and the .300 Winchester Magnum. 1 of 3 Go to page. I think I'd prefer it over the 280 Ackley just because brass is probably a little easier to come by. The WSM I own shoots 165 Accubond bullets very well, my WM shoots the same flavor only in 180 gr best. Same deal, if you did that with the .308 vs the .30-06, the .308 will produce slightly better groups. Joined Aug 18, 2009 Messages 121. I have a 300 WSM with 2200 rounds through the barrel and still shooting 6-8" 10 shot groups at 1000. the throat has moved forward about .075, so yes I think there is a difference in barrel life with the advantage to the WSM. The advantage to this round is the ballistics are nearly identical to the .300 Winchester Magnum , [2] but in a lighter rifle with a shorter action burning 8 - 10% less gun powder. Next Last. The .300 WSM also head spaces off its case shoulder versus the older 300 Winchester Magnum's belted head space engineered design. The RUM's are not … PX Member. 6. Advanced Marksmanship Unit. SUBSCRIBE. I want to get a 300 win mag but the gun i am after i am having trouble getting it. Thread starter Quigley76; Start date May 28, 2020; Tags 300prc 300wm 300wsm hunting; Forums. 300 win mag vs 300 wsm. The goal of this article is to help you determine which .300 Win Mag Rifle is best for you. And is the ammo for the 325 easy to get over in Africa (Namibia) just incase things go missing in transit. Plus even with modern powders you need more than two feet of barrel to burn the shovel full of powder in either which negates a lot of the reason for having a short action caliber. Well written and easy to understand . .300 WIN.MAG. Final Verdict: 300 Win Mag vs. 300 Ultra Mag. Last year, I was hunting with a buddy that was shooting a 6.5-300 Weatherby and I was shooting a .300 Win Mag. if you need the weight diff of a shorter action,then you need to look at how much that diff is and why you cant carry that weight.me -i will take the 300 win mag .-good luck in your choice.-as some one said- get enough brass and your set up for the life of the gun The 300 is an awesome cartridge, I liked the weight to BC options in the 7mm range. Feb 17, 2010 56 5 Texas. Nov 1, 2013 #1 M. mattri Well-Known Member. So a .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 3170 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .300 Winchester Magnum round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 3520 pounds over the same one foot distance. Mar 23, 2017 #1 i'm trying to wrap my head around some specifics for the rifle i will eventually build. The 300 WSM is also a good round but once you pass about 165grs. Thanks . Barrel length. PX Member. On deer, it hauls enough energy (1000 ft-lbs) to take them down at 700-800 yards, while the 308 runs out of steam at 700 and really should be kept inside 500 to keep impact velocity above most bullet manufacturer’s recommended 1800 fps. If you are shooting at greater than 1200 meters, .300 Win Mag is the best bet. The 300 WSM is equal to the 300 win mag … What relevance that has to killing an elk is about diddley. Another vote for the .300 Win Mag. First on the list is this suppressor from Silencerco, which has a decent customer satisfaction score. Apr 6, 2014 #6 B. Broz Well-Known Member . I just wrapped up a 7mm WSM build after selling my 300 WSM. Opening morning in Wyoming proved to be as picturesque as I imagined it; my pal Mike Ruella and I were teamed up with a competent guide, there were antelope everywhere, and the weather was perfect. Sell me on a 300 WSM vs. 300 WM vs. 300 PRC for Hunting. vs. .300 Wby. So a .300 WSM Winchester Short Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 3580 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .308 Winchester round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 2620 pounds over the same one foot distance. If I'm day hunting in moderate terrain, which is rare anymore, I'll use the WM. Hi there, I'm Will and I'll be your guide. Velocity. In truth, the .300 WSM runs a bit (though not significantly) slower than its bigger brother, and in some rifles, demonstrated serious feeding issues. 300 PRC vs 300 WIN MAG!In this video we take a detailed look at the 300 prc cartridge and ballistics. It's pretty close to the 280 Ackley and since you're a reloader, obtaining ammo won't be an issue. Shot and have seen elk shot with a lot of different cartridges. Price gouging at its finest . I shot mine at 270 yards, quartering away, 1 time. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. Next Last. Mag. If you wanted to hunt long range, I would opt for the .300. There is a 325 wsm in the same make of rifle that i like but would like to know what people think of the 325 over the 300. The 300 Win Mag is older but still versatile in for shooting in most hunting sites. Peterpan Banhammer. Same weight bullet, same velocity = same recoil. Velocity also has a role to play. Joined Feb 3, 2007 Messages 8,638 Location Townsend, Montana. Recoil of the 300 WSM should be pretty much the same as the 300 Win Mag. 6 COMMENTS . If you’re to shoot a long-distance target, you’ll need a bullet with a high velocity. So, even though it has a 2.1″ case length that’s just a little longer than the .308 Winchester case, the .300 WSM has a significantly larger case capacity (79.0g H2O) than the .308 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield. Mike had taken a very handsome buck, with horns in the shape of a heart … The .300 WSM ( Winchester Short Magnum) is nothing more than a old elephant gun cartridge, shortened and necked down to .308 The same diameter as the 30/06 Govt. The 300 Win Mag can put the same energy on target at out to 600 yards, nearly twice the distance. As a slight aside, the .300 Winchester Short Magnum (.300 WSM) has an even larger diameter case than the .300 Winchester Magnum (.535″ vs .532″). Best .300 Win Mag Rifles Comparison 2020. … PX Member. MudRunner2005 said: If 800 is your longest shot, save the barrel life by getting the .300 WinMag. Have you ever considered the 270 WSM? as far as the win mag vs the wsm for distances between … The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .30-06 Springfield vs .300 WSM Winchester Short Magnum ammo rounds. Posts: 14,807. Banned ! May 23, 2020 36 9. Looking at building an intermediate range rifle for target and hunting. by Philip Massaro - Saturday, October 3, 2020. Posts: 14,807. … This will not be a bench gun, nor … 1; 2; 3; Next. The .30/06 vs. the .300 Winchester Magnum. Closer than that, 6.5 Creedmoor is a better option. Both are celebrated by hunters worldwide, but which one of these classic .30-caliber cartridges will come out on top Aug 4, 2010 1,461 0 32 Cleveland, OH. Go. We believe that America should be free and support the 2nd Amendment. If you like to hunt with AR style weapons, 6.5 Creedmoor is the best choice. Mag. 300 WSM vs 300 Win Mag. 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