But working to the Wilson formula of 2kg per length, the horse would have been beaten 8kg. Thanks, Of course you know that Carey. Lengths Per Second - Racing Talk - Racehorse TALK. The length of a horse "Length: The measurement corresponding to the average length of a horse and used to describe winning, or losing, distances. But don't they measure length's beaten from a camera still, from the winner ? . The traditional standard is 2.4 metres (8 feet), but some people use 2.7 metres (9 feet) while others take an average and use 2.55 metres. Thoroughbred sprinters can go about 10-11 seconds per furlong, and about 11-12 seconds in the end. To say "Horse A is 10 lengths ahead of Horse B" is to say that Horse A is ahead of Horse B by the approximate equivalent distance of that horses body length in stride times ten. I thought it was roughly 0.14 secs per length, about 7 lengths per second. lengths/ second is not a lineal measure . Racing is based on weight. "even time" or 200 metres in 15 seconds). In Scientific Racegoing they equate the speed of a horse at the end of a race  as 5 lengths per second, and this is then used in calculating a Speed Rating of race and then for each horse in that race. Only good horses can run good times, but both good and bad horses can run bad times. The actual number of lengths-per-second varies according to the type of race and the going conditions. The average length of a horse is around 2.5 metres and a horse that finishes hard-running at 30mph is covering 13.4 metres per second, while one going at 15mph covers 6.7 metres in the same time. Bioenergetics and Racehorse Ratings is an alternate approach to creating speed ratings. . Guinness World Record recognizes Winning Brew, a Thoroughbred, as the fastest horse in the world at 43.97 mph. It depends on how many lengths per second you use. Historically, the margins in lengths were calculated from still photographs as each runner crossed the line. Naturally, that depends. It also computes the AVERAGE speed of the race in both miles per hour and kilometers per hour if you correctly enter the length of the race, and if the official time of the race is entered. Using 1.5kg to a length we would say that he was beaten 6kg. that is about 14 (13.3333) metres per second Which is about 7 lengths per second So a horse working at 'even-time' would be covering about 7 L/sec Usain Bolt is capable of running sub-10-seconds for 100 metres, but he could, if he wished, jog the distance in 20 seconds. I tend to allow about a half second or so for wet tracks, or quicker on firm turf racing. 11–13 Furlongs: 1.5 pounds per length. You could get a horse winning by 10 lengths but the horse it was 10 lengths clear of may have weakened and missed a place. I'll muck around with it.. just trying something at the moment. i have not read all before.My understanding,was or is even time 12 seconds etc my thoughts 6 lengths to the sec. The Daily Racing form uses 5. In the results or form of a horse, it will show a margin in lengths. Race margins: 2 len * 4 len or decimally "2L * 4L". The home of Horse Racing on BBC Sport online. These terms are more descriptive than scientific." By running it in 10 seconds, he shows he is a good athlete. It used to be that 1 second always covered 5 lengths but since June 15th 2008 the British Horseracing Authority has set the following distances as equating to one second of time for all UK horse races. 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. A horse can win, or be beaten, by a length or more, or by fractions thereof -- 3/4 of a length, half-length, 1/4 length, neck, head or nose. For the base of horse speed, I used the record for 1½ miles (2,414 m) which is 60.86 km/h (37.82 mph) by 3-year-old Hawkster at Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, California, USA on 14 October 1989 with a time of 2min 22.8sec. This works out to an average furlong time of around 11.6 seconds. So in theory, if horse A beats horse B by 2 lengths in a 5 furlong race, he is considered to be 6 pounds better on the day. Thus 1 length would be roughly 2 metres 'Even time' a term not used that often these days was 15 seconds to the furlong . yep and 6 lengths per sec. If the horse won the race, then the margin is the number of lengths it … 14f: 1.25lbs per length. 12 seconds to the furlong is a working gallop, give or take, and 14 - 15 secs to the furlong is 3/4 pace as far as I know. 8/48 =.1666666… seconds per horse length 1 mile is 5280 ft, length of horse is 8 ft, so 5280 / 8 = 660 horse lengths around the track. One second is equal to five horse lengths, so 5 seconds would be equal to 25 horse lengths. Select the distance factor of the race and then enter the value of the factor. If we are looking at, say, a 2400m race and the horse is beaten 4 lengths, the Wilson formula would say the horse was beaten 4kg (1kg equalling a length). A horses physical length can't change, no matter how fast they are going. At 98 seconds we had 2.26 pounds per length and 2.3 pounds for 8f. One length in thoroughbred racing is roughly equal to 17 one-hundredths of a second, so rounding to fifths can obscure differences of slightly more than a length - … A 5f race run in 65 seconds at a stiff track like Pontefract on soft going would be more like to 3lbs per length. Definition of horse speed unit: ≈ 1½ miles in 2' 22.8". Of course it relates to how fast they're travelling. Done this from memory but will check computer code when I get back. 55 MPH is the top speed of the world’s fastest horses. It is still “time,” so convert to speed by dividing it by the lengths of the race (84.05 divide 577.5) and this horse’s speed was approximately 0.1455 (seconds per length). Horse racing offers a unique, interactive experience like no other sport. For example, in a flat turf race run on good going, a value of six lengths-per-second is used; in a national hunt race on heavy going, where horses are assumed to be moving more slowly, the value is four lengths-per-second. Includes the latest news stories, results, fixtures, video and audio. And this is a pretty good start for an average. One Length or more Anything above one length will be shown in a racebook form guide as 1 1/4 len, 3 1/2 len, or 4 3/4 len, whereas the decimal equivalent would be shown as 1.25L, 3.5L and 4.75L. I've allways worked on 6 lengths to the sec. It can help horses win by its very absence and stop them winning because it is there. 12 seconds to the furlong a working gallop?????? Lengths Per Second - Racing Talk - Racehorse TALK, This is from Wikipedia, so I know it might not be 100% reliable, but for what it's worth, It's an interesting question - to state the bleeding obvious why are we recording margins in lengths, Greyhounds are always 15L to the second, but that's not really relevant to this is it. horse speed. If you fancy showing the same, you can try to do likewise! Of course this varies by track, surface, and weather conditions but a “good time” for six furlongs is around 1:10 (one minute and 10 seconds). 15f+: 1lb per length. The margins were formerly painted on the running rail. Our results show that at 57 seconds that 3.88 pounds is required for each horse length. Even time is a racing term that has been around since the day dot and it means 15 seconds per furlong. In some books (especially American ones) you might see 5 lengths per second as being the norm. From information on lengths per second and this book you will be able to create your own speed rating for any horse. Horse racing weight conversion table. Always use the correct lengths per second for the race run. 9-10f: 1.75lbs per length. However, if a race was run over 5f in 55 seconds at a sharp track like Epsom on good to firm going, our scale suggests it should be closer to 4lbs per length. A five-furlong race is often over within one minute and decent sprinters will generally run a furlong in under 12 seconds once they are up to speed. (i.e. In racing vernacular, a "length" is exactly that - the length of a racehorse in stride. What this means, is that, over a 5 furlong race, if a horse was ahead of the established horse by 1 length, then it should have been carrying 3lbs more. The baseline speed for 7 furlongs is 0.1375, which has an arbitrary value of 1,000. This script returns conversions for generally used horse race track distances. Quarter horses racing 440-yard have been timed running 55 mph, the fastest recorded speed of any horse. Not disputing you Wenona, just found it confusing Mitavite, one of Australia's biggest feed distributors claiming it to be 12 to the furlong. A length is the distance of a horse from nose to tail and is shown in a form guide as 'len' E.G. Without going into the complexities, the scale used for Timeform ratings represents more than 3 lb a length at five furlongs, 2 lb a length at a mile and a quarter and 1 lb a length at two miles. I wouldn't want to be backing the horses where 2.4m= 1 length. Other measures A master horse racing tool to align horses to their relative positions even if if they didn't run together: The Formgrids Length Behind Tool. To me, a benchmark for routers is somewhere between 11-13 seconds depending on the early pace. Table 1 showed that at 4f, 4.58 pounds was required and at 6f, 3.05 pounds. Be sure to check out our Beginner’s Guide to horse racing, which explains betting procedure, horse racing results, and horse racing terminology. Using the measurement of human performance as a template the book attempts to do the same with horses. Although it has been shown — repeatedly — that this rule is not accurate, many horseplayers still swear by it. Or roughly 12 seconds per furlong. 15+ Furlongs: 1 pound per length. Steeplechases over four miles or further can take up to ten minutes. However, at that point, he covered the 2nd 1/4 in 23 seconds, or 57.39 fps, which equates to 6.38 lengths per second for the 9 foot long horse. Distances are calculated on the elapsed time between each horse and then a scale known as the Lengths per Second Scale (Lps) is used dependent upon whether it is Flat or Jumps racing, the type of surface in use at the all-weather fixtures and the official going description issued on the day. depends on how quickly they are running their last 600. length of a horse from nose to tail, approximately 8 feet, Quote from: Steve M on 2011-Jul-31, 08:10  PM, Quote from: ratsack on 2011-Jul-31, 09:24  PM, http://www.mitavite.com.au/mitavite06/Calculator/, Quote from: dubbledee on 2011-Jul-31, 10:13  PM, Quote from: Wenona on 2011-Jul-31, 11:15  PM, Quote from: Wenona on 2011-Jul-31, 11:20  PM, Quote from: arthur on 2011-Aug-01, 08:42  AM, Quote from: JWesleyHarding on 2011-Jul-31, 07:00  PM. Hmmm. 1320 feet in 22 seconds is 60 feet per second, or 6.67 lengths per second for the 9 foot long horse. Learn the terms and techniques to place your first bet. therefore it goes on from there? it is a measure of speed . Weight is the great equaliser. Splitting the difference to get 5f puts us at 3.81 pounds. so (and obiously you may say) the more lengths per second, the faster, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 04:49  PM, Quote from: junior on 2011-Jul-31, 04:52  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 04:51  PM, Quote from: carey on 2011-Jul-31, 05:01  PM, Quote from: Rodent on 2011-Jul-31, 05:07  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:22  PM, Quote from: carey on 2011-Jul-31, 05:15  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:32  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:39  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 05:58  PM, Quote from: carey on 2011-Jul-31, 06:05  PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2011-Jul-31, 06:12  PM. 11-13f: 1.5lbs per length. Most of the gallop was run at even time, with a 400m sprint in 26 seconds in the home straight. Sorry to be a nark, but I can't see what the big issue is. 0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic. Perhaps the oldest and silliest horse racing rule of thumb in the history of old and silly horse racing rules of thumb is the notion that a length equals a fifth of a second. . Virtually from the first race ever run - whenever that was - weight would have played a key role. 12 to the furlong is better than a working gallop or it is fo slow horses  i've had some you could clock with a sun dial. In Scientific Racegoing they equate the speed of a horse at the end of a race as 5 lengths per second, and this is then used in calculating a Speed Rating of race and then for each horse in that race. Five seconds on the track equates to how many horse lengths? 14 Furlongs: 1.25 pounds per length. The weight carried by a horse in any particular race will normally be displayed in a stone and pounds format, this is shortened to an easily readable display such as 11-12 (11 stone 12 pounds). 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